A Grandmother At 29, WTF?!

G Fresh · Post by **G Fresh** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 5:10 pm

This grandmother is younger than I am...

The_Dude · Post by **The_Dude** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 5:55 pm

Doesn't surprise me.

14 year old girl has a baby.

14 years later, her 14 year old daughter has a baby.

Stupidity is genetic.

Morphine Child · Post by **Morphine Child** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 5:58 pm

The_Dude wrote:Doesn't surprise me.

14 year old girl has a baby.

14 years later, her 14 year old daughter has a baby.

Stupidity is genetic.

Bingo. Bring on the breeding laws!

sevesd93 · Post by **sevesd93** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 6:15 pm

I love it when I get to actually see what my tax dollars pay for...

bassjones · Post by **bassjones** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 6:27 pm

I had a foster daughter who had 3 kids by 16. Her mother was only 30. Both have sponged off the taxpayer for everything. The grandmother defrauded the system though, so now she'll never get another dime of public money. She had a live-in boyfriend who worked at GM, making $50K a year, and she was still collecting the welfare check. She got caught. She should have been neutered.

Oliver's Army · Post by **Oliver's Army** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 6:36 pm

Spayed...SHE should have been *spayed*

bassjones · Post by **bassjones** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 8:10 pm

whatevah

Yeah spayed, to be technical about it. Worst part is the 30-year-old granny's parents are fine upstanding citizens who gave her a great upbringing. She left it all behind to be a welfare queen.

G Fresh · Post by **G Fresh** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 9:32 pm

[quote]Back at home with her mother and brothers, Celia â€” wearing pajamas and a do-rag that covers her hair â€” holds the baby. Her tank top shows off two black tattoos on her arms.

One, which winds down her forearm, reads â€œTish,â€

echosauce1 · Post by **echosauce1** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 10:28 pm

I'm all against govenment intervention in my freedom of choice. The one grey area that make me a hypocrite is this. I wish that they could develop a safe birth control drug that was mandatory to be taken at coming of age. Then, if you wanted to have chitlins, you had to take classes, take a test, pass the test, and get a liscense to breed. For crying out loud, it's easier to have a baby than to get a dog at the pound.

I know the above is orwellian 1984 but think for a minute about how much of societies ills could be solved by this.

And, yes, I know it's hypocritical of me to think this way, but I'm willing to take the flak for it on this one. I'll would gladly risk the "slippery slope" for this.

Garr · Post by **Garr** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 11:31 pm

Hey, you have to have a license to drive, but not to breed?

I think that one is FAR more important to the safety and economic structure of our country, but it's not mandated at all. I see nothing wrong with requiring people to take socio-economic classes, parenting classes, and other various things, but forcing someone to take drugs or altering their bodies (IUDs) or whatever goes a step beyond the line.

Maybe you have to pay more taxes, or you cannot be eligible for government assistance if you're not a licensed parent. It's just amazing to me the things that we regulate that pale importance by comparison.

bassjones · Post by **bassjones** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 9:16 am

How about this instead, pass a parenting class and show some level of instinct restraint or we put your kid up for adoption.

Garr · Post by **Garr** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 9:20 am

yeah, that's not right. that is so not libertarian, you should never be allowed to mention the party again.

Sankofa · Post by **Sankofa** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 9:41 am

Garr wrote:that is so not libertarian, you should never be allowed to mention the party again.

Al Quandt · Post by **Al Quandt** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 12:41 pm

I agree with the license idea. Even though I had a baby at 23 which isnt an abnormal age. I was FAR from ready to be a father. That is not to say that I didnt do a good job, but for sh*ts sake I graduated college hours after my daughter was born. I had no idea what was in store for me.

I cant imagine my life without her now, but I really wish that I was much more careful. Not just with my daughters mom, but every other potential woman I could have knocked up from being a dumb ass.

I am overly careful now (some would go as far as to say prudish) but it shouldnt take having a kid to get my act straight.

VALUES VALUES VALUES parents, teach them. I was just talking to someone about this yesterday. My parents instilled as much value as possible in me as a kid. They never focused on birth control, the focused on abstinence. This kept me a virgin until the age of late 17 when most of my peers had lost it 13-15 years old. And I was good about it until I got my self into things that made me not use my mind correctly to care. Now if my parents were as hard on me about drugs as they were about sex I might be a much better person

There is no perfect way to do it, but from a quote in that article.

She always urged Celia to tell her if she was having sex so she could arrange birth control for her

Your daughter should not be having sex at 15 years old!!! Period! She shouldnt be alone with her bf long enough to do so either.

Its foolish of me to think that my daughter would make it through HS a virgin. Its very possible but foolish to bet on, but I am not going to make it possible for her to do it by any means I can. If she finds a way to sneak sex, there is noting I can do about it but I can at least try to make it hard for an actual sex life with a man that would better her chances for pregnancy.

bassjones · Post by **bassjones** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 12:57 pm

I was kidding. I want no government intervention in parenting decisions - other than obvious severe neglect/abuse cases. I would make sure no public money were spent supporting those decisions though. If you can afford to get your pregnant teenage daughter inked, you can afford to pay for food, diapers, formula, rent and utilities too.