I Don't Mean To Sound Insensitive, But...

G Fresh · Post by **G Fresh** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 5:18 pm

Terri Irwin's just kind of asking for more tragedy isn't she?

http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/i_video ... d=2093706n

Sankofa · Post by **Sankofa** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 6:09 pm

That producer stole his hair...

from Donald Trump!

Al Quandt · Post by **Al Quandt** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 6:21 pm

gotta keep the money coming in some how.

Jambrea · Post by **Jambrea** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 8:19 am

From what I've heard, this project was in the works before Steve Irwin died.

G Fresh · Post by **G Fresh** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 10:06 am

From what I've heard, this project was in the works before Steve Irwin died.

Either way, putting your 8 year old daughter in a pen with a fully grown bison and then handing her the halter doesn't strike me as the brightest of ideas, especially with the recent passing of your husband...who died while filming wild animals.

Jambrea · Post by **Jambrea** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 10:13 am

I agree, but it is this familyâ€™s passion. That little girl has been around more wild animals than most of us have even heard of. Plus, bison aren't aggressive animals. I think she will be ok. Would I put my eight year old in the same situation, no, but (if my child was

he also wouldn't have the same back ground in this situation.

G Fresh · Post by **G Fresh** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 1:33 pm

Plus, bison aren't aggressive animals

Neither are stingrays...

Jambrea · Post by **Jambrea** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 1:41 pm

G Fresh wrote:
Plus, bison aren't aggressive animals
Neither are stingrays...

Bison are like cattle and don't have stingers with venom. Unlike Stingrays that have a stinger that is -From Wikipedia

razor-sharp, barbed or serrated cartilaginous spine which grows from the ray's whip-like tail (like a fingernail), and can grow as long as 37 cm. On the underside of the spine are two grooves containing venom-secreting glandular tissue

I see that as a BIG difference.

G Fresh · Post by **G Fresh** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 1:57 pm

Bison can reach up to 2 meters (6Â½ ft) tall, 3 meters (10 ft) long and weigh 450 to 900 kilograms (900 to 2,000 lb). The biggest specimens on record have weighed as much as 1140 kg (2,500 lb). The heads and forequarters are massive, and both sexes have short, curved horns, which they use in fighting for status within the herd and for defense.

^ Also from wiki...

I think I'd feel safer around a spooked stingray than I would a spooked bison.

All I'm saying is, I don't care who your dad was or how you were raised, I just don't feel like it's a good idea to let an eight-year old, 50 pound little girl interact in such close proximity to potentially dangerous wildlife, emphasis on the wild.

Of course, I don't have kids, so what do I know.

Jambrea · Post by **Jambrea** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 2:02 pm

I agee with not wanting my child in that mix. I guess I'm just saying that kids have been around cows herding them for years. It is part of the farm life. Bison are like cows so I, personally, think it is safer than something that has venom, but to each his own.

Massage...Bored · Post by **Massage...Bored** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 2:23 pm

That girl could probably out perform most Zoologists eight times her age. I doubt she'd be allowed in a pen with bison if she didn't know what she was doing and had proved that several times over. Its a family business and she's picking up where her father left off. Oh, and this show was in development looooong before her father's accident.

Jambrea · Post by **Jambrea** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 2:24 pm

Massage...Bored wrote:That girl could probably out perform most Zoologists eight times her age. I doubt she'd be allowed in a pen with bison if she didn't know what she was doing and had proved that several times over. Its a family business and she's picking up where her father left off. Oh, and this show was in development looooong before her father's accident.

Yep! That is what I was saying.

G Fresh · Post by **G Fresh** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 2:47 pm

Jambrea wrote:
Massage...Bored wrote:That girl could probably out perform most Zoologists eight times her age. I doubt she'd be allowed in a pen with bison if she didn't know what she was doing and had proved that several times over. Its a family business and she's picking up where her father left off. Oh, and this show was in development looooong before her father's accident.
Yep! That is what I was saying.

I'm not talking about knowledge, I agree with you there, I'm just referring to sheer size/strength or lack thereof. I don't care how much you know, in a battle between a 900 lb. cow and a 50 lb. girl, I'll pick the cow to win everytime. Besides, her dad was supposed to appear in the show with her, being right next to her and co-hosting while she was interacting with the animals. That, I would have less of a problem with. As regards this,

Bison are like cows so I, personally, think it is safer than something that has venom, but to each his own.

Far more people have been trampled to death by cows than have died because of a stingray's venom. Exact numbers of stingray fatalities are unknown, but they believe around 30 or so in recorded history. I don't have any numbers on cow trampling fatalities, but I'm pretty sure it's a good deal higher. Just because something has venom doesn't automatically make it a more dangerous animal.

bassjones · Post by **bassjones** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 2:59 pm

my entire family has been cattle farmers for years, and I can assure you cows can be very dangerous at times. They get spooked fairly easily and a 50 lb little girl is going to have a hard time controlling that beast if it's spooked. I'm sure she's relatively well versed in safety around the animals, but accidents do happen.

Then again, Irwin took her into a croc pen when she was a toddler, so who knows what he'd do.

Massage...Bored · Post by **Massage...Bored** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 3:14 pm

Whether its a 50 lbs. little girl or a 6' 8" NBA star, that bison would kill them if it wanted to. Tough sh*t, life happens. Go out doing what you love. I don't see the big deal.