McCain Gets The Nod As Romney Drops Out

deek · Post by **deek** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 3:46 pm

Ya know, I wasn't planning on voting this year, but this is getting annoying enough to just vote for Hillary out of spite:)

Honestly, I still have never seen the difference in a president...its only one person and they all seem to be the same. And maybe that is because we haven't had a really great, policy-changing president in my lifetime!

bassjones · Post by **bassjones** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 4:45 pm

How old are you? Reagan was more than likely in your lifetime, unless you're a helluva lot younger than I thought you were. Whether you think it was good or bad, he was certainly a great policy-changing president.

deek · Post by **deek** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 5:34 pm

31...and I considered Reagan...but I gauge presidents on the likes of a Lincoln or similar...

There definitely hasn't been anyone better than Reagan in my lifetime...

bassjones · Post by **bassjones** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 5:44 pm

Me either and I doubt there will be. Of course, I'm one of those people who thinks he belongs on Rushmore. And no, that's not TIC.

"A society in which government is beholden to the people rather than the people being beholden to government." That's what I'm talking about.

Lowered Capital Gains taxes by 50%, lowered income taxes, completely responsible for the economic boom from '82 through 1998, "Tear down this wall!", etc....

Morphine Child · Post by **Morphine Child** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 6:48 pm

Jones I can see you sitting there every night listening to Norry on Coast to Coast AM, thinking, "whoa! That is totally true! Oh my god man, Bill Clinton went back in time and was totally on the grassy knoll!"

Conspiracy, conspiracy, conspiracy.

bassjones · Post by **bassjones** » Fri Feb 15, 2008 9:06 am

actually, I listen to Savage... Seriously, don't all those dead people make you think they MIGHT have had SOMETHING to do with it. All the questions surrounding Foster and other robberies, suicides, car accidents... I wouldn't want to be their friend and have too much information, that's for damn sure. I will go to my grave believing that Vince Foster did not commit suicide.

WBOB · Post by **WBOB** » Fri Feb 15, 2008 9:22 am

bassjones wrote:actually, I listen to Savage... Seriously, don't all those dead people make you think they MIGHT have had SOMETHING to do with it. All the questions surrounding Foster and other robberies, suicides, car accidents... I wouldn't want to be their friend and have too much information, that's for damn sure. I will go to my grave believing that Vince Foster did not commit suicide.

.....even if it was a small percentage of all the names you've listed...
just the thought raises more questions than answers.

Morphine Child · Post by **Morphine Child** » Fri Feb 15, 2008 9:33 am

bassjones wrote:actually, I listen to Savage... Seriously, don't all those dead people make you think they MIGHT have had SOMETHING to do with it. All the questions surrounding Foster and other robberies, suicides, car accidents... I wouldn't want to be their friend and have too much information, that's for damn sure. I will go to my grave believing that Vince Foster did not commit suicide.

I don't base much of what I believe on loose facts and possibilities, but that is what separates you and I in most things.

I get the feeling that I would have heard more about this somewhere other than an internet forum if there seemed to be any weight to it. Oh wait! The Clinton's own CNN. forking liberal media!

bwohlgemuth · Post by **bwohlgemuth** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 12:13 am

Savage? Pullease....actually, I'm tired of almost all of them. Glenn Beck is "interesting" because he can actually crack a good joke every now and then. Other than that, the vast majority of these pundits are good friends with each other, making money on insulting each other, and then each side lines up to buy their books, see them in theaters, watch their shows, etc. It's not discussion, it's entertainment which enthralls the listener.

And all those people whacked. Without anyone saying anything....not one person.

bassjones · Post by **bassjones** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 10:22 am

that's a lot of dead friends. I've had one friend die in a plane crash, one in a motorcycle crash and two in car crashes. How about you?

bwohlgemuth · Post by **bwohlgemuth** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 11:41 am

Not defending Clinton here....

I haven't had many. All of my good friends from my childhood and college are still on this planet, breathing (at last check).

Only people that I have known who are gone are most of my grandparents, all above 70 when they left.

Then again, my friends don't shuttle back and forth in helicopters and have various political dealings which could fatally embarass a family. We all live pretty vanilla lives...

bassjones · Post by **bassjones** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 12:57 pm

Okay... admission time.

For the most part I think most of those are a stretch at best and I don't believe the Clintons were involved in offing all those people... However, I'm not convinced Foster was a suicide, and I do believe the Clinton administration (including Ms. Clinton) was the most corrupt in 150 years. Overall, more corrupt than Nixon even. I believe Juanita Broderick, I believe Paula Jones, I believe Kathleen Willey, and I believe Mrs. Clinton believes them too, which means I believe she stayed married to her husband for the power, which makes her pretty damn villainous in my estimation. I believe her hands are filthy dirty on Whitewater, filegate, travelgate, etc... and I believe she would be the worst president we've ever had - I also happen to believe the same thing about B. Hussein Obama. And I'm not that much more excited about the prospects of a McCain Administration.

bassjones · Post by **bassjones** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 1:01 pm

Oh, and I don't listen to Savage very often. I don't listen to Limbaugh at all anymore. I don't listen to Beck very much, and I listen to Hannity only on occasion. I think they're mostly blowhards and Republican shills - except Savage, who I do find pretty amusing when I do listen. He's also extremely intelligent and I can't say I disagree with his assesment of the world in which we live very often.