Any thoughts? I find it interesting he was right on most everything he claimed would happen...I would guess if we had gone in there, I would still have forces in Baghdad today. We'd be running the country. We would not have been able to get everybody out and bring everybody home.
And the final point that I think needs to be made is this question of casualties. I don't think you could have done all of that without significant additional U.S. casualties, and while everybody was tremendously impressed with the low cost of the (1991) conflict, for the 146 Americans who were killed in action and for their families, it wasn't a cheap war.
And the question in my mind is, how many additional American casualties is Saddam (Hussein) worth? And the answer is, not that damned many. So, I think we got it right, both when we decided to expel him from Kuwait, but also when the President made the decision that we'd achieved our objectives and we were not going to go get bogged down in the problems of trying to take over and govern Iraq.
An interesting d*ck Cheney quote
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An interesting d*ck Cheney quote
So I was reading about the 1st Gulf War today on Wiki and I came across an interesting quote from d*ck Cheney (in 1992) on Desert Storm:
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Yep, he had it right in 91.
Also, consider that the UN mandate was ONLY to remove Iraqi forces from Kuwait, not remove Saddam from power. If we had attempted to do that, the coalition would have broken down and we would have been operating unilateraly back then as well.
One thing George 1st did that was despicable was to afterward urge the Shiites and the Kurds to rise up and overthrow Saddam, with the implied promise of our help. In a repeat of the Bay of Pigs, that help never came and thousands of Kurds and Shiites were massacred.
The only wise thing W does is surround himself with smarter people, which is not too difficult.
Also, consider that the UN mandate was ONLY to remove Iraqi forces from Kuwait, not remove Saddam from power. If we had attempted to do that, the coalition would have broken down and we would have been operating unilateraly back then as well.
One thing George 1st did that was despicable was to afterward urge the Shiites and the Kurds to rise up and overthrow Saddam, with the implied promise of our help. In a repeat of the Bay of Pigs, that help never came and thousands of Kurds and Shiites were massacred.
The only wise thing W does is surround himself with smarter people, which is not too difficult.
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"There is a level of cowardice lower than that of the conformist: the fashionable non-conformist."
Ayn Rand
". . .and the trees are all kept equal by hatchet, axe, and saw."
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Agreed! Stupid mistake...One thing George 1st did that was despicable was to afterward urge the Shiites and the Kurds to rise up and overthrow Saddam, with the implied promise of our help. In a repeat of the Bay of Pigs, that help never came and thousands of Kurds and Shiites were massacred.
If this would've been done differently, we'd been
in a totally different scenario in Iraq, and all
the middle east...