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Ya Think?
Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 9:44 am
by Dagwood Lee
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20581183/
In case you hadn't heard this before.
Must be a slow news day.
Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 10:33 am
by deek
As are athletes, by the way.
The only issue I have with the article is that Cobain didn't commit suicide....Courtney Love killed him...
Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 10:42 am
by Silencio
You've listened to Cobain's songs, and you think it wasn't suicide?
Whatever.
Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 10:51 am
by sevesd93
Courtney Love is a lot of things (Slut, Terrible Singer, Very Ugly, Worthless, Etc...) but, I do not believe she is a killer. Cobain was depressed, he killed himself, and did a damn fine job I might add.
Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 11:04 am
by Garr
despite coroner's records that empirically state that he had enough heroin in his blood that he would have passed out three times and could not have even held the weapon, let alone fired it. . .i'm torn with evidence and speculation.
Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 11:07 am
by Garr
Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 11:38 am
by Silencio
Junkies build up breathtaking tolerances to the drugs they use: there is no specific blood level at which a drug makes action impossible for every user. For example, prepping for a scary surgery a few years ago, they gave me (in stages, of course) a massive dose of a hypnotic, a dose "that would drop a horse" according to my doctor. He informed my waiting family that "if I split that dose between the five of us, we'd all go out like a light." I, on the other hand, was still talking through a haze on my way to the OR. I own a really smokin' liver. We've all heard stories of people being picked up DUI with blood alcohol levels that are supposed to kill people.... a combination of good physiology and a highly practiced tolerance. Doctors know this, so I don't think a coroner would surmise that any amount of a drug short of a fatal dose would make action impossible.
From the link;
"Something is wrong here... terribly wrong."
Again, I agree, and submit the graphic evidence of Mr. Cobain's oeuvre.
Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 12:12 pm
by bassjones
Now, if you want to blame the psychotic b*tch for getting him hooked on heroine and driving him to the brink of suicide, that's another story.... but I do believe he pulled the trigger himself.
and I might add, the death toll for jazz musicians isn't all that prettier. Bird, Trane, Jaco, etc... Miles died fairly young, although he lived longer than his drug abuse gave him any right to.
Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 6:35 am
by Dog
Bassjones: Agreed.
Couldn't care less 'bout Cobain, though.
One thing I found interestin' an' kinda wanna point out:
The average age of death was 42 for North American stars and 35 for European stars.
They got *way* better drugs... an' they ain't sharin'.