Global Warming hysteria/hoax causing starvation

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Morphine Child wrote:
Well, if the age of the earth set by Creationists is correct, we should have enough fossil fuels to last another few hundred years by next Thursday at 11am. If they're wrong? Well, it's going to be awhile. Sorry to poke fun at the creation myth, but it seemed appropriate at this moment.
I am a Christian and I believe what the Bible says. If I am wrong, I won't know the difference. If you are wrong, you, in your arrogance, are in for one hell of a time.
The big bang is more of a myth than creationism. To me, it makes more sense to believe that God created everything (whatever His method) than to think that chance is responsible. What was before the big bang? What was before that and what was before that, and on and on and on and on?

Global warming is a hoax. I think it is just one more ploy to bring us closer to socialism. The earth goes thru cycles. It always has and always will. Yes, we should be good stewards, but what we put into the invironment is an insignificant percentage and certainly not enough to change the entire earth. Anyway, plants use CO2 so the more of that there is (to a point) the the healthier the plants will be and the more O2 they will make.
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The Hammer wrote:
I am a Christian and I believe what the Bible says. If I am wrong, I won't know the difference. If you are wrong, you, in your arrogance, are in for one hell of a time.
The big bang is more of a myth than creationism. To me, it makes more sense to believe that God created everything (whatever His method) than to think that chance is responsible. What was before the big bang? What was before that and what was before that, and on and on and on and on?
I'm not overly afraid of hell. Besides, what's fire and brimstone going to do to a non-physical entity lacking a nervous system to feel it? f**k that. Pascal's wager is ridiculous. Ignorance? Ignorance = humans and dinosaurs coexisting.

To turn things around on you - what was before God? What was before that and what was before that and on and on and on and on? Infinite regression works both ways. And don't give me some Biblical scripture or Christian thought that "god is outside of time...", prove it. You know, even if there is some supernatural being that is greater than that us, that doesn't make your religion right. That's the thing that burns my buns more than all. Christianity was/is the scientology of the first century.
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can't prove it. can't prove evolution either. don't yell. you can't and you know you can't. repeat it, then I'll say it's proven.
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Some people want proof. Some people have faith.

The rest, well, they don't think about it at all.
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bwohlgemuth wrote:
Oliver's Army wrote:I like your bass playing, and your a nice guy... but dude....really... your politics, science and world view are misguided and woefully haphazard.
Maybe mine won't be as haphazard.

The whole idea of growing corn, only to harvest it to make fuel is ridiculous. Corn is a very specialized crop, requiring lots of effort (read time/money) to grow in industrial quantities. Frankly, I hope the entire "corn ethanol economy" falls flat on its face. There are several studies, including this one which shows there are crop feedstocks which are much more efficient at creating ethanol as opposed to a food staple based feedstock.

Now, I still don't like ethanol. It's a nasty chemical conversion process that has significant costs (both fiscal and process) as opposed to using something like solar or nuclear.

There's more to add, but Ollie, I tend to agree with Brad on this type of stuff (and I don't consider myself "misguided").
back on track...

Not to mention corn is one of the hardest crops on soil. It really sucks the nutrients out of the soil. Farmers used to have to rotate their fields to replenish the earth. after a couple of years of growing corn, they'd switch to soy beans for a year or two. They would rotate their fields so they had constant growth. If we end up with corn based ethanol, we're in more danger of depleting the earth of naturally occuring nutrients than if we left well enough alone. Sugar cane is a much better source for ethanol production, but I agree with B here. The long term solution is nuclear or solar power. Perhaps plug-in hybrids where we can draw enough solar power to re-energize cars by plugging them into the solar generator at night... We're not that far off from standard plug-in hybrids. The Toyota dealer told me to expect them in trucks by 2010. That should boost mpg into the 60-75 mpg range - for a full-size pickup capable of pulling a good-sized boat or camper.
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bassjones wrote:can't prove it. can't prove evolution either. don't yell. you can't and you know you can't. repeat it, then I'll say it's proven.
"A River out of Eden" by Dawkins would be a good starting point. It's short, sweet, and concise.
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The Hammer wrote:I am a Christian and I believe what the Bible says. If I am wrong, I won't know the difference. If you are wrong, you, in your arrogance, are in for one hell of a time.
And yet, an eternally forgiving God condemns those who don't follow a specific dogma?

Faith, hope, and love. Which one was most important?
The Hammer wrote:The big bang is more of a myth than creationism. To me, it makes more sense to believe that God created everything (whatever His method) than to think that chance is responsible. What was before the big bang? What was before that and what was before that, and on and on and on and on?
Who's saying chance was involved? Why wouldn't the BIg Bang be part of his plan. Hell, the Big Bang makes more sense if you believe in God.
The Hammer wrote:Global warming is a hoax. I think it is just one more ploy to bring us closer to socialism. The earth goes thru cycles. It always has and always will. Yes, we should be good stewards, but what we put into the invironment is an insignificant percentage and certainly not enough to change the entire earth. Anyway, plants use CO2 so the more of that there is (to a point) the the healthier the plants will be and the more O2 they will make.
Agree on some points....but that's about all.....
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Back on track. . .Biofuels are NOT the solution to our energy problems. Corn energy yield from Ethanol is a measly 2:1. Sugar cane is better at 4:1. Growing enough corn to meet our energy needs will deplete our soil fairly quickly. This idea is a nice-sounding quick-fix, and politicians like those. Like Jones said, let free enterprise solve it, and they will.
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I'm all conservation, polution control,..etc..etc.....

Cept where government is involved,, there's where you lose me.
So yeah,...free enterprise, market based solutions work best.
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deek wrote:
WBOB wrote:
deek wrote:Humans are smart. We'll figure a way to work it all out...when it comes down to it, self-preservation is what we do best...
Nature is smart. On it's own, it'll figure a way to work it all out...when it comes down to it, self-preservation is what it does best...
Hehe...good point.

Nature vs. Humans...who will win?
I've got my money on Nature.
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http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-shepp ... ient-truth

FUNNY! Nice one Al,....nice one! Now that's an inconvenient truth

On Friday, it was revealed by ABC News that one of the famous shots of supposed Antarctic ice shelves in the film was actually a computer-generated image from the 2004 science fiction blockbuster "The Day After Tomorrow."

Imagine that. Algore, once again called on the carpet, nowhere to be found. I heard they're also using video from GI Joe to illustrate Clinton/Gore's retaliation to all the terrorist attacks that happened while they were in charge.
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So... no ice slabs have ever fallen from a glacier or iceberg?

Or ever captured on film actually happening?

By legitimate research scientists?

Ever?

Glad I can count on a random blog to correct my ways.
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HERE's an interesting read from a study done by scientists at NASA. What's really interesting is the speculative and unfounded excuses they make when the data they are finding (or not finding) doesn't match up with their foregone conclusions...
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Did you know that random blogs are the future sources of fact? I mean, why bother doing any research when we have blogs and Wikipedia at our disposal?
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Oliver's Army wrote:Glad I can count on a random blog to correct my ways.
My work here is done!
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