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Oliver's Army wrote:stop playing sh*ddy music
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Anderson wrote:
nonamehero wrote:Ando I am gonna one up you... Now as Ando says he is begging all cover bands to stop playing last dance with mary jane right. Well I am begging all bands to STOP PLAYING COVERS ALL TOGETHER. Just a suggestion... :lol:
I used to be of the same mind as you before Dano, but it's pretty much inevitable for a band to be succesful in this town and have regular gigs without playing covers.

So if you're playing the music as a means of survival in this city you have to play covers... just doesn't work without them.
Ando with all due respect this is my response to this statement...
A. Who says that you have to play in this town.

B. And the fact that you have to play covers to gig in this town is not true at all. Maybe to play bars but who cares playin in bars sucks anyway.. There are plenty of all ages shows goin on that cater to all original music. You just have to expand a little bit. We have never played one cover since we formed the band and we are doing really well. We play at least 6 to 10 shows a month. Granted we play a good portion of our shows out of town, which in summation brings me back to point A. But If your music is good and you promote yourself well you don't need this town anyway. Fortunatly for us our music is good and people in our home town like us so we get plenty of shows in Fort Wayne as well. So if survival in this Little hole in the world is your goal, then I guess just keep being a jukebox for a bunch of drunks, but if you really believe that music has powers of healing and personal expression, take a chance and do your own thing and who cares if you never get to play Columbia street, maybe along the way you stumble onto some shows that really rock.
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Cover bands in this town make money. Good cover bands make it hand over fist. To be a commercially succesful (barring the always present exceptions) band in this area, you need covers.

Now. . .let me interject on this little fact.

This is NOT the fault of the MUSICIANS!

It's the fault of the people who frequent the establishments that hire the musicians. Bar owners pay money for things that make people stay in their bar and buy drinks. Those people, generally, don't give a rat's ass about original music.

If the PEOPLE. . .the everyday, regular, money spending citizens stood behind original music with their ever talkative buying dollar, then club owners would surely listen, and Fort Wayne would be overrun with original music and original musicians making a living at selling their art.
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I guess I just don't understand the importance of playing in bars... And don't tell me that they are the only places to play because it is just not true. As I stated before there are plenty of all ages shows around you just have to do a little work and find them. Besides all ages shows are way more fun because those kids are into music.. When was the last time yo saw a mosh pit at Columbia Steet.. How about last... NEVER. And if you were to somehow get a pit going or anything of that nature, those jerks they call bouncers break it up. So in my opinion all ages shows are the real deal and way more fun. And at all ages shows kids go there to hear ORIGINAL music not a bunch of guys doing someone elses songs. If I want to hear songs from the past I will buy the cd. Now I don't want anyone to take this the wrong way and people to think that I am dissing all the cover bands in the city because I am not. This is strictly my opinion and what has worked best for me and my band. I would just as soon not spend money paying a cover to hear songs i have heard a million times before. I would rather spend my hard earned dollars hearing bands play their own music that is all.
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Post by Oliver's Army »

Bar bands are there for entertainment, not for a 'concert'.

Apples and oranges.
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There are clearly two different sides of the local music spectrum. Only the very catchiest of local original bands will make a profitable effort at playing out. In fact, most of them don't (or shouldn't) care about making more money than they need to cover studio time, merch, and gear upgrades. Even that takes a lot of time when you're new and no one knows you.

Cover bands are going to get asses in seats. If you compare the number of people who go to all ages shows every weekend to the number of people who go to bars and hear cover bands, you'll find that the consumer has spoken, and what they said was, "we want to listen to something we already know." As long as the consumer is saying that en masse, the bar will continue to provide it to them.

Unfortunately (or fortunately to some, I guess) the general public in this area does not concern itself with supporting original music. This is NO NEWS! It's been that way in this town for longer than I've been able to go to bars.

Change starts with the people, but you have to give them something they want to hear too. It's a symbiotic relationship. If you want even local commercial success, you have to be willing to play what lots of people want to hear whether it's original material or cover material.
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oh yeah. . .and it doesn't hurt if you do it well too!
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I'm with Garr and Ollie. There is a big difference between bands playing to put butts in seats and bands playing for their artistic integrity. I'd like to think that we're artistic, but if we want to pay for the recording time and printing of the CD we're trying to put together, we've gotta play to full houses. Until we make it we'll mix well done, different sounding covers with our originals and hope to achieve a happy medium.

That said, the empahasis in my last sentence needs to be on DIFFERENT sounding covers. This post originally was about covers that are overdone, and those are plentiful. "Last Dance" and "Brown Eyed Girl" have no place in your bands lineup if you're just gonna try and sound like the original artist. No one is gonna sing just like Petty or Van, so stop trying. Be creative! Have fun in making the song your own.

It's even possible to have fun with an audience while doing a cover song. Pick a random audience member and have them come onstage to help with the chorus. Take the mic into the crowd and have them sing along. Any cover song can be done well if the band is willing to put a little energy into making it fun.

If you do a cover song right it can be a new experience for your audience every time.
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